Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points. CGtrader might have better conditions, rules and everything but it's useless if it doesn't attract more buyers. CGTrader is bather as a platform and like I wrote above if we help in couple of months will overcome TS on search engines, which will also increase our sales. my main income its still TS. See ourPrivacy Policyfor more information. This is due to discrimination in the pricing policy of the "TS" site. Thingiverse has allowed licenses to be transferred into another users name, which is very important option if you want to invent something and sell the ownership, else your stuck with it forever. Yep.. Doesn't seem so. If any of you think this is a show of strength from Matt Wisdom and his Corporate brother Andy, think twice.
Agree with every word above. There are currently no models in your cart. Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. How about all products here have no restriction Google search.etc.
I tried to edit the obj for him and renounced because of the bad quality, especially, UVs and material names that were impossible to edit, such as mat000_0571 and other flaws ; he also bought a model of a bad quality from TS but was offered a refund immediately even on a sunday ; he posted his experience on our forum ; needless to say that others members of this community won't consider, now, CGTrader as a top quality website), same with people starting everyday a new irrelevant thread on the forums just to take advantage of the reputation system, which was a good idea, but which was hijacked by some unscrupulous sellers. Well, it was more than one year ago that I last intervened on this thread. Thanks for sharing Your experience and thoughts. TurboSquid be avoided guys! It seems to me that over time a CGTrader will be able to overtake TurboSquid in many positions, if TS does not change its policy. I hope to find same courage someday ;-) Yes CGtrader is great! f9acb067-ba84-4d38-8a65-8d3c4249a700Zoom.jpg httpswww.turbosquid.com3d-modelsfemale-rigged-3d-model1041167 --GENERAL-- This is hight quality female model with animation friendly topology. I agree to what captainmarlowe is telling. Hi guys, thanks so much for your very valuable comments, they are much appreciated and we are very happy to work with you in order to make CGTrader the best place for 3D designers!
I still get more sales on TS, despite having adjusted all prices to compensate their extortions. And good thing that you decided to tell about - such things should go public and be discussed. A good platform should integrate all next gen communication technologies in order to support curent evolution and technological progress. So that is why sites like Amazon are making a fortune. Royalty rate of CGTrader allows the seller to make a model cheaper than on TurboSquid. I do not know if micro-managing brand or front-page appeal helps drive sales more effectively on other sites than on CGTrader. At some point in the past both Turbosquid and The3DStudio had to get through a huge cleansing of their site and removed thousands of objects that were hampering their credibility. But hey thats your call, That's sad, but true. although, the 3d printing industry is growing rapidly :D. I have to agree. The fact that you can upload models immediately rather than waiting 3 months for them to get reviewed by some random people that won't have the time + the website design and the community inside CGTrader. Anyway, there is still some ocasional Turbosquid fanboy that bashes CGtrader and promotes Turbosquid in public forums and social media while writes this in TS forums at the same time:
CG Trader is easier to navigate, more stimulating perhaps than turbo squid. And CG Trader offers up to 94% royalty rate, where as Turbo Squid gives I believe 60% royalty rate CG Trader more open than Turbo Squid, and when registering, requires less personal information. We need to broaden our spectrum and clientele if we want to make more money. What? The age of 3D models is over and people have moved on to 3D printing. A few months went by with my models offline and during that time my GCt sales gradually went up at a level consistent with the few sales I had left behind on Ts so I just deleted all my models at Ts. We had the experience of a 3d modeling agents (UKW) stealing our models before and stopped selling with them, from there on we put a small signature on each model. If you have any questions about these items before you purchase, please contact us at https://support.turbosquid.com/ I mean the good/bad rating left by buyers. Maybe some people don't want to bother about different programs compatibility, while others don't mind to spent time configuring things in different applications. Part of it is because they don't want to get scammed. This way we let buyers know that cgtrader got some interesting stuff. This market is changing rapidly and Ts is not adapting to the evolution of connectedness within the global CG community. Rigged 3D models are available in Autodesk 3ds Max (.max), Maya (.ma), Softimage (.xsi), Cinema 4D (.c4d) and many other file formats. Personally I don' t see anything offending on human body, everyone has one but I respect that it could be offending to someone (especially kids) so it should be censured. We initially did the 3D printing focused homepage after noticing that CG customers skip the homepage and come directly to product page, mostly knowing exactly what they need for their projects, while 3D printing customers need more direction and inspiration, so that even non-professionals can discover this new industry. disavantages: low budget clients willing to get low quality models for 5$. High hopes for Cgtrader. I hope ideas of exclusivity get replaced by inclusive ones all over the globe. I don't know if that is still the case ( and I have no desire to check ) but that is advertising that is hard to beat. Tom cat cartoon character rigged for Maya 12. I'm done with them. Sketchfab.com-------------------------------. Thanks for your feedback, it really makes sense. I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. (2034950) 3D Regarding sales, for me personally CGtrader is in lead with a small margin for almost 5 months in row now, I'm confident the difference will get even bigger (so let's be realistic Ts sales is dropping dramatically). I like the deposit proposal of flat_3d, but jet again it probably best be part of a repertoire of marketing tools the designer could choose from, not a global policy. stores with its own labels for 3D printing, 3D stock, crowdfunding, game models maybe even concept designs, sound files, storytellers, code for making apps, 3D scripts, etc) Each of this stores would then again have subcategories (e.g. But at the same time they require all rights to the model, and the model is removed from sale at all sites. I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. I think that subsequently only large studios and squidguild members will remain there" It makes you blind and clueless to how a customer is actually using your product and how well it integrates in his business and future activities. That is true, but im talking if buyer is already familiar with existence of CGTrader, he can reap all the benefits then. And for good sales you don't need to be there neither because its just your own clients you swing to them. I didn't checked it for a while (around a year) but comparatively Cgtrader has a much more streamlined upload system compared to Turbosquid's. In one case, the model is promising, commercial, and then set a high price. I tested the CGTrader rigged character morphs for Daz3D studio from your commission and it works like a charm! This is hight quality female model with animation friendly topology. 4. But for the rest i do like the way cgtrader functions, more royalty rate, easy uploading and a community forum and job board. You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase.
,,Checkmate,, from TS was actually invented by Jonathan Lloyd, the person who ruined Pixel SQUID :). I ran my test with "characters" and displayed 128 models on one page. Maybe I live in an unrealistic parallel reality, where at least some people still have some dignity and know how and when to differentiate good vs evil and take a public stand with actions instead of just words. If you are doing really bad with sales they let you do whatever you want but if you are doing well they step in and make things difficult. Of course if you are buying models for the next Transformers movie the poly count won't matter that much because those models may be 500,000 each and you have almost unlimited resources to run those. http://content.screencast.com/users/Lenwe/folders/Default/media/96a1c5f2-d18b-4e5c-ab3c-01bd5189b9ca/TurboSquid_Monopoly.png
They can present the model screenshots straight from their helpdesk and ensure the client is not being screwed? it is a sad reality, some sellers are ready to buy a model of their competitor to post a bad rating. To be honest, it's hard to me to believe that such respectable people like Mantas and Eduardas would refuse to remove negative feedback if it was given without firm reason. Well, unless I can verify the quality of the model I'm not going to pay for most things. Also don't forget that people sell their photos and posters too. I have to be honest about my view else who am i. We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. A very interesting idea about the stores and collections. - Fixing some guidelines to upload quality models (at least assuring that obj models, for instance, if textured, should have a proper .mtl file, limiting the models to quads/tris, imposing materials and textures to have understandable names, etc. I like, CG Trader is ascent. Then someone from cgtrader decided that he likes 3dprinting sooo much. You can upload a 20 mb large model here with 3 formats, 20 photos, 100 wording text, 20 tags in around 20 minutes. Blendswap.com5. And if the buyer sees one and the same model on CGT and on TS, then the price will choose on CGTrader Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, + blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). Sometimes you have to support the buyer. Both are still growing, but it seems CGtrader is growing much more. In something limonadinis says is true, but I agree with tomislavveg. CG Trader. I removed the download limit until we update the protection so that buyers can download much larger quantities of free models. On "woman", print-ready jewels and scanned models again come in the way. what you say doesn't make any sense because CGTrader has a 100 percent guarantee return policy on all models as far as I know. I was victim of that there a few months ago, I had a bad rating when the model have never had a problem during many years. @skifx, apparently your feeding hand is just too small. just 2 years ago still existed. In other countries like China film production is far better funded so perhaps CGTrader could try opening it's doors to Hong Kong film studios etc Japan is also far better funded and in fact Turbosquid is also selling models on the Japanese market. I wish someday Turbosquid disappear or bankrupt. Founded in 2000, Turbosquid has championed growth in the 3D space through partnerships with leaders in the industry.
I can see how 3D modeling and 3D printing can be connected, but even that has to have a clear border for the customer. This is not a "fight" between NoneCG and Turbosquid, but a struggle between different ways of doing business: the classic closed market or a more open one based on a Fair Business model and full comunication between the producer, the marketer and the customer. The utopian view here is a successful merge of all related activities (or at least part), connecting as much people as possibly can that are doing something that could potentially involve 3D, and in doing so eventually streamline part of the global 3D marketplace and increase the amount of successful transactions between many possible parties. So what I did was simply adding the 60% cut to the product on Ts. Unless you have a huge ass :) You can not keep all aspects of these markets covered, so you will only be average on all of them or even worse. That's how they won and that is how you succeed in business. I think this computer graphics industry just needs a well known and established hub specific to our profession, and one that is being run with good core principals like we see it here on CGt. Turbosquid has too many models It would be great to have more of your feedback so we could make it better for buyers. I can't imagine that competing sellers would go for such things as you described, but who knows, there are plenty nuts all around :]. The longing to justice is something that cannot be eradicated, the hole of human history shows that clearly. In previous post the buyer mentioned he don't get reputation points for buying models? Then there is the stupid "reputation" point issue. Every market needs time, every business needs it. (so you basically pay for a fraud protection system for people hoe sell themselves out exclusively). The "crap models", "under-priced models" issue is a very sensitive topic that should be discussed. Ts just took royalty's from other items I've sold to get the money back. I hope it goes well for cgtrader i really like this page :-). Sometimes 3D model can have some errors, or it was not 100% what buyer had imagined it will be. Turbosquid bites the hands that feed them: Brittney Briere, Sep 18, 09:53 SST: You have to realize that TS is recognized by autodesk and even had a direct tab link to their site in max itself. Being between a rock (TS) and a hard place (CT) is a damn round the clock aggravation. My price at the time was same both on Ts as on CGt but after some time position on CGt got better and sales was picking up. Hopefully that would make squids to react. We'll let you know about that soon - all CGT sellers will receive via email, so stay tuned! Nice try. In CGtrader you can accumulate many until you set up payment agreement. Having a direct link/communication is also critical in detecting possible needs and potential new business. Fact is, the best is where is can make the most sales. To my amazement something ells also happened, there where still a few people buying my more expensive models on Ts. A: TurboS*swearword-here* will start to DOWNTICK PRICES to match them to "other selling sites" on customer complaint, so I will remove every model they demand for down-adjustment, and I'm sure I won't be alone in this. I see what you mean but I think it depends on how you are covering markets. On TS buyer cant do such thing, he needs to contact support on TS. However, we have detected that you have set your prices back numerous times after we have made appropriate changes. It's like if shapeways.com will start selling classic "cg" models. - An improvement in search results based on manual rating from sellers and/or CGtrader staff. Thanks again guys, and let us know if you have any further comments or questions. Also could you elaborate on the search and going backwards issue? I was thinking of ok if the ts is shit why not using other marketplace with the cgt specially if both accept selling in other marketplace, You have zero 3D models uploaded here. However, probably allot of us silently disagree on how we are treated as artist on places like Ts. Adult Female Jessy Rigged 3D Model 9. I agree that these two parts - CG and 3D printing should be split at least externally/ visually. TS can go to Hell, and never return again. That's why I won't model one single model for online sale until this heinous situation is rectified. Rigged models are great for art projects, games, movies or VR experiences, because they save a lot of development time. Some may look great for close ups but in a large environment scene or house setting when you have a lot of models to let's say show off the interior design of a model home you need to be very careful on poly count. I was stunned to get informed there was no fraud protection (yes people, you pay 60% cut and get no fraud protection). To me this was a sign that people know about CGt and that users have at least two accounts. Especially if the buyer asks to change something in the configuration of models or to clarify details. I remember that too! Also, the problem comes from the sellers, not the site designers, for a large part. Fact is and I have been saying it for years is that there is a super limited amount of people who care about 3D. I really enjoy the chance to get to know other people's opinions and experiences regarding how they sell, network and do business and that is something I have only been able to do here on CGT. CGtrader might have better conditions, rules and everything but it's useless if it doesn't attract more buyers. I'm also active for some time on other marketplaces as well (e.g. And in terms of openness and freedom CGTrader is the first. But we forgot about the buyers. You need to find what you want based on category and budget and purchase it quickly so you can use the product or send it to who will. (I prefer not to learn/spent time to handle all the different 3D applications and conversions) Send of two customers so far (here on CGt), hoe asked for a maya version of this model. I could go on and on, it kept me puzzled. in the name of freedom expression of the buyer (???). To be honest, when I first found this site a few days ago I was really excited. For me CGTrader is the best and CGTrader has the best structure of a 3d site !!! I deleted my products here and joined sguild again, no reason for staying here. I am new starter here.
No frankly, it's a bloody mystery. It is currently selling on the of TS is much higher than on CGT. They don't allow you to communicate with the customer, with Turbosquid support acting as a "human firewall" (and a bad one) that is constantly supervising every interaction to ensure that Turbosquid always gets the best outcome (and neither the seller nor the customer). Some while ago someone (if he is real, can't even verify that) bought my snakebot model on Ts and he posted a nice comment. Everything is more and more coming down to individual levels of very friendly and much more human communication. They lie about your rights on Turbosquid. Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. Honestly, who wants to buy nudes anyway? It is pretty difficult to find what you want but if you are only looking for free models then CGTrader's search engine is far better than Turbosquid. IMHO that is main area where CGT must up their game significantly. The motivation to backlink and make marketing efforts for the own store (and the collective trademark ad the same time) would probable also increase. It is pretty awesome!!! Doesnt matter the kind of kinky-dinky stuff the platform provides me. Remember The3DStudio? We want to improve the site not make it worse :). Currently on a tight budget, would lose a substantial cut to pay for software licenses and hardware. Downside at CGTrader is as i've just been informed from Support is NO you can't sell the licence here and transfer it into another users name. While sellers will be disadvantaged in many interests. I read here on the forum can't remember if it was Iterate CGI or someone else said that CGTrader will soon sell on Amazon and I can't wait for it to happen!! That is a serious problem because it means a whole lot more work for sellers and I wish they would just get with the program. Some people mistaken de renders for real items already, can imagine how that would be on Ebay or amazon. Turbosquid has a bot spying cgtrader prices. I agree structural arrangements need to be done to support this bud it needs to be done in a way so it supports the main axiom of openness. In that case on CGTrader buyer can contact seller directly and ask him/her to fix the issue. I agree with Captainmarlowe than one of the most important ideas to develop is more "education" for Sellers about all aspects involved in this business, and some kind of system that favors good and fair business practices and penalizes bad ones. It would be mess. Answer: IN my opinion Turbosquid is a great site for selling models. So if I am looking after regular CG models, afters a few minutes search, my logical choice is not to search on CGTrader but rather on "old-fashioned" sites. I dare to bed that those hoe left CGtrader a year ago to sign some exclusive contract to get the money a little bit faster will regret that decision rely badly next year. The title says it all!1. Ah crap, not sure how that referal spam sneaked into turbosquid link, here is the clean one: https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/cathedral-paris-notre-dame-3d-obj/933856, I think that subsequently only large studios and squidguild members will remain there. The items from CG and TS do not appear very far from each other in Google. Regards, It is all about customer reputation and perception. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment Same for me, here. You could say CGt is a service platform that harbors and connects sellers and buyers of specific digital goods, in theory there's no limit to how much people and their digital products/services they could connect. TS staff do their best and is not responsible for the strategic choice of TS So what's needed? It is also my favorite 3D site but some things need to be fixed before they can overtake some of the other sites. I don't think trying to sit down with one ass on more then one chair at the same time is a good business. Comment goo's like this, quote "Awesome model, converted this guy over into maya and he looks great" end quote. - CGTrader pays immediately; TS waits until the end of the month. We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. As long as CGtrader and Marius keep leading the inclusive marketplaces with respect for the Artists and their own branding, we at NoneCG will continue to support CGtrader and Marius indefinitely, no extra shiny coins needed for us. They say you can price things anyway you want but then they take down your models if they do not agree with how you price them. Thanks iterateCGI, from the start we thought it will be best to expose the issues publicly, so other cg 3D sellers can see for themselves what they are exposed to when dealing with Turbosquid. You can download any 3d model in all popular 3d formats including MAX, OBJ, FBX, 3DS, STL, C4D, BLEND, MAYA and other. But it should be also possible to turn this filter off. He earns trust in this way and we know everything stands or falls with the coming and going of trust. [http://www.google.com|google11] TS has terrible support, i had stupid responses from them during my interaction with them. That place is dead for me. On other hand I could also think its just some clients that do not care about the price difference, they just prefer using the Ts account. - Once in a while, alert all designers that a cleaning operation will be made, and wipe out objects that are of a too bad quality or copyright infringements. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. Apart from this it would be nice to have a system that promotes collaborative action to make the products themselves better. I posted my first model today and have to say it was a very pleasant experience. Animated Lion 3D Model 14. You just have to check the Sellers forum at Turbosquid to see plenty of complaints about all sorts of abusive policies. TurboSquid goes down, It becomes miserable the users are ,,working from behind,, !