Singh: This scene really doesn't make sense to me either. All we can say for sure is that when Spider-Man and Venom meet, there will be maximum carnage. As the police showed up, Eddie took a widened shot of the event, and noticed Gwen Stacy holding on to the side of the building. Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing more of this version of Garfield's web-slinger again in the MCU. Now, its critical to point out that this has never been a real thing in the comics. In 2007's Spider-Man 3, the alien symbiote crashes in New York and latches onto Peter Parker and later Eddie Brock (played by Topher Grace). At the same time, Strange has broken free from the Mirror Dimension, and Hollands Parker asks him to undo everything with a spell one that will make the world forget who Peter Parker is. Obviously, that's great for the audience, and it gives us a deeper sense of closure with the characters, but "No Way Home" doesn't explain why there's such a discrepancy between the heroes and the villains. Precisely what, or who, is causing the multiverses to merge is unclear. Captain Stacy: Relief that he's gone for good. Warning: Spoilers for Venom: Let There Be Carnage ahead. At the climax of "No Way Home," the multiverse is collapsing, and Doctor Strange is doing everything in his power to prevent all of reality from being pulled into the confines of the MCU. We already know that magical abilities aren't necessarily linked to lineage. Just as Mr. Brock makes the decision to go to New York and speak with Spider-Man, he's transported back to his home dimension, leaving a bit of Symbiote goop behind. But then Peter, Ned, and MJ exchange weird glances at each other. At the least, I'd really love to see Garfield team up with Holland's Spidey again because he looked like the actor who was having the most fun on set. First, Spider-Man really is a low-key local neighborhood hero now, and could just swing around New York saving the day. I don't get it. But the fact that his first scene in the MCU involved the Palpatine Lego and one of the last scenes of "NWH" showed Peter putting that Lego on a table in his new apartment had me worried. After Secret Wars, Spider-Man takes the symbiote back home, and after a while, it leaves Peters body and connects with Eddie Brock to become a new Lethal Protector, named Venom. Peter Parker, it seems, is finally living the life he wants New York doesn't seem to be gunning for him, he's with the girl of his dreams, and he's managing to balance his normal life with the life of Spider-Man. Clearly, whatever is coming through from alternate universes would be immensely destructive, but Strange plays coy about the specifics of the danger. All that remains is Green Goblin. Peter Parker was bitten by a radioactive spider as a teenager, granting him spider-like powers. After trailers and stills showed a very different-looking villain than the one featured in "The Amazing Spider-Man 2," everyone began wondering what universe this Electro really belonged to. Unlike the 616 universe, Eddie goes through with committing suicide at the church. The biggest is that the scene doesn't make sense. There's also another scene when Peter and MJ were swinging through the city trying to escape civilians and the media after the identity reveal and she told Peter they couldn't go to her house because her dad would kill him. However, a symbiote that was earlier discarded there by Spider-Man sensed his anger and merged with him, becoming one of the deadliest foes of Spider-Man. He says that the electricity in the MCU feels different and more powerful than that of his home universe. The actor, best known for playing Dani Rojas in Ted Lasso, is a recognisable face to those who have watched the beloved Apple TV Plus show. After all, if Spider-Man's foes aren't superpowered, they won't need to fight the hero to the death. Like the comics, the symbiote latches onto Peter first, enhancing his aggression and ego before attaching itself to Eddie Brock. Parker rents an apartment in New York and goes about being a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man. But it seems like the multiverse is going to break regardless based on the "Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness" teaser attached to the film's end. Eddie Brock . "80 billion light-years of hive knowledge across universes would explode your tiny little brain," Venom says. After watching the film a combined four times, two members of Insider's entertainment team (correspondent Kirsten Acuna and senior reporter Olivia Singh) wrangled together every lingering question (along with some fun quibbles) we have about the latest "Spider-Man" film. After many years of budding heads, Eddie realized that he didn't really "hate" Peter. Acuna:"NWH" undid the deaths of Doc Ock, Norman Osborn, and Electro. "It's four people sitting at a table, having a conversation about what it's like to be a superhero, and it was amazing," Holland said. Especially with a Mary Jane-loving Peter Parker present on-screen, MJ's name is a concrete detail that shifts "No Way Home" away from the Earth-616 of the comics. Of all the mementos that Peter possibly could have put on his table to remind him of Ned, he chose that? Heres how it works. Venom, still solidly on the villain side of superhero alignments, lunges at Peter Parker while proudly proclaiming "We want to eat your brain!" A line memorable enough to be quoted on action figure packaging, cementing the Symbiote's signature hungers. Seems a little suspicious. Also, I cannot imagine the kind of reaction Peter and MJ shippers would have to that theory. Ned and MJ play key roles in the film, and without their help, there's no way that Peter would've survived to see a brand new day. "No Way Home" definitively places the MCU somewhere other than the Earth-616 of the comic books. After you check out "No Way Home," join us as we break down theories, dissect what the end of the film means for the future of Spider-Man and the MCU, and discuss moments that left us puzzled (we're looking at you, Venom). Anne was shocked and distraught at her husband's death and eventually goes to the same church to mourn him, where her rage attracted the symbiote and transformed her into this world's version of Venom. This isn't the first time Stark's tech has been shown to be adaptable and capable of more or less thinking for itself, and clearly, Peter's nanobot-powered suit was designed to change depending on the problems he encounters. A great memorable quote from the Spider-Man 3 movie on Quotes.net - Eddie Brock / Venom: (Whilst praying) I come before you today, humbled and humiliated, to ask you for one thing. 45. It stands to reason this "hive knowledge" would contain something about Peter Parker being Spider-Man, so Venom was pulled in by the spell and Eddie just had to go along for the ride. Then theres the fact that Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus are the same age as when they were killed in Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2, respectively. Eddie Brock: Hey, Parker. Holland said he filmed "one of the coolest scenes I've ever shot," involving Peter, Aunt May, Happy Hogan, and a mystery character. Alfred Molina who plays Otto Octavius is even de-aged using CGI. However, as far as we know, Eddie Brock (Tom Hardy) doesn't know anyone named Peter Parker. But worry not here are the most confusing moments in "Spider-Man: No Way Home" explained. I vaguely recall a reference to a "Daily Globe" which . Hollands Parker is then flung the cure by Garfields Parker, injects Goblin with it, and his aggressive toxins disappear, leaving a broken Norman Oscbourne behind. Ned is astounded by his new abilities, but his grandmother who presumably could have some deeper insight into the family's magical past hardly blinks an eye. In it, Peter's fellow Midtown High student Betty Brant presents a highlight reel of student photos from the past few years. Same with Betty, which explains why the "NWH" marketing team decided to create a Daily Bugle TikTok account where Betty, their newest intern, shares videos and interviews with her peers. Both multiversal Spider-Men explicitly arrive from some point in time after they were last seen on the big screen. Coinciding with Coxs reappearance in Spider-Man: No Way Home is Vincent D'Onofrio returning as Kingpin in Hawkeye. In the comics, Flash Thompson famously became the superhero Agent Venom, which could be another possibility. That seems overly complicated.. They're acting like this is more difficult than getting three Spider-Men in a movie together. Singh: I find it really interesting that the world was so quick to turn their backs on a beloved, friendly neighborhood superhero and Avenger simply because a brand new character made such a bold claim. I get that. Starting his career as a failed reporter unwittingly due to the actions of Spider-Man, he would go to Our Lady of Saints Church to ask God forgiveness before attempting suicide. But despite being in three standalone Spidey movies, we never really learn much about MJ's family life or why she's so particular about her name. Apparently, Venom has multiversal knowledge, though this all remains a little confusing. Even though he knew Gwen had a modelling gig, he was surprised at what he saw. As we mentioned, there's a lot of little clues that seem to be planting the seeds for some kind of significant journey for Ned should he continue to appear in the MCU. Before she dies, though, she manages to give Uncle Bens classic with great power comes great responsibility speech. All that could be on the table now, but we'll have to wait for future announcements to know for sure. How does that impact the original universe of each villain? Apparently, the electrical energy in the MCU feels different, imbuing him with a new look. The MCU films have naturally strayed from the source material at times, but no one could be sure that meant the two mediums belonged to separate universes entirely. as well as other partner offers and accept our, Columbia Pictures, composite by Kirsten Acuna/Insider, Columbia Pictures, Kirsten Acuna/Insider composite, despite my best efforts to see if Kingpin/Wilson Fisk purchased the tower, "NWH" producer Amy Pascal said that Holland will appear in three more movies, version of the character called Agent Anti-Venom. Does the multiverse break in Loki or Spider-Man: No Way Home? She told him that her name was Michelle Jones and she didn't go by Watson. At the end of "Venom: Let There Be Carnage," Eddie and Venom don't appear to recognize Peter or Spider-Man at all. (Does he consider Oscorp or his penthouse apartment to be home?). Gwen: Yep After the interview, Peter walks over to Gwen to apologize to her about last night at the Jazz Club. When a giant metal tentacle tears into Peter's Stark suit, the severed nanobots fuse into Ock's arms and hand over their control to Peter. Conversely, Maguires Peter Parker has aged appropriately as the actor has gotten older. He was quite rude and did not get along well with many of his coworkers (including Peter Parker). This identity was later proven to be false when Spider-Man outed who the real Sin Eater was. This is all, of course, just a theory, as no one knows what Spider-Man and Venoms second cinematic showdown will look like. Singh: Venom needs to show some self-control, honestly. After Spider-Man comes into contact with a black substance from outer space, he finds that his powers have been enhanced and he has a new black suit. Singh: This movie probably gave not just Garfield's character, but also the actor, some closure after the mess of the "Amazing Spider-Man" movies. During his trial, Murdaugh's attorneys flirted with the idea that . Depowered, Eddie Brock is imprisoned for his crimes and placed in a cell with a serial killer named Cletus Kasady. The ending of "No Way Home" erases Peter Parker from the world. Together, Eddie and the symbiote became Venom and sought to destroy Peter and Spider-Man. Tom Hardys Venom shows up in the Spider-Man: No Way Home post-credits scene, having been transported into the MCU which we already knew had happened because of the Venom 2 post-credits scene. "No Way Home" could've left the change up to the magic of the multiverse, but the film actually takes a bigger step towards a genuine explanation. Does that change how anything plays out in Maguire and Garfield's Spider-verses now? After all, Flash is Spider-Mans biggest fan, and that would create an interesting dynamic between the two characters. First, theres Jamie Foxxs Electro whos suddenly really suave, despite the villain being a dorky tech-nerd in The Amazing Spider-Man 2. Brock started out as a journalist for The Daily Bugle. Venom is a villain in Marvel's Spiderman. No one wants that more than Hardy, I think. GamesRadar+ is part of Future US Inc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. That means that two key characters from the Daredevil show are now back in the MCU. Acuna: I think some people are going to watch this scene and immediately assume it spells doom for Peter's best friend Ned. Of course, we have to wonder, does Ned even remember using magic now? This isn't that hard to do. But why does Venom lick the TV with Peters face on it? A new Spider-Man movie with Parker as a mentor figure could send the Spider-Man legacy down a fresh new path. Spider-Man: No Way Home left us with a few questions about the future of Peter Parker. That seems confusing. Scott Pilgrim vs. the World (2010) Edgar Wright's energetic adaptation of Bryan Lee O'Malley's hit indie comic book has its detractors. I'm the Senior Entertainment Editor here at GamesRadar+, bringing you all the latest movie and TV news, reviews, and features. But eventually the game would have to end. (The actor has said his contract is finished after No Way Home, but hes open to renewal.). This was because, as Eddie revealed to Spider-Man, Eddie was dying of cancer! I'm thinking humiliation. Eddie Brock and Venom were transported into the MCU just in time to see Peter Parker's secret identity revealed on the news by Mysterio and J. Jonah Jameson. Brock was in ruin, and he blamed Spider-man for it. [grabbing Mary Jane] If you know what I'm talking about. Let's start. Is Ned turning evil? He strikes a deal with Harry Osborn, who tells him that Peter Parker knows where to find Spider-Man. With the three Spider-brainiacs quickly cracking how to help the four remaining evil-doers, they lure the villains to the newly shielded Statue of Liberty. MJ learned Spider-Man was Peter Parker right before Doc Ock's death. Doctor Strange's spell has done the trick: the spell has worked and everyone has forgotten who Peter Parker is. Singh: My guess is that the Mysterio believers are supporting Jameson's smear campaign against Spidey. "Venom: Let There Be Carnage" sent shockwaves through the nerd world with its end-credits scene. Besides, Strange seems perfectly content to focus on his own pursuits, and Wong must be at least a little relieved to have some say in what hijinks Strange gets up to not that Wong's influence was able to prevent Strange from breaking open the multiverse while trying to help Peter. Viewed 3k times. Do spiders taste good? When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Reeling from all the chaos, Peter thinks of the one person who might be able to magically make his troubles go away. ", Don't even get me started on the moment when his Spidey character saved MJ, after years of carrying guilt for not being able to get to Gwen Stacy fast enough and prevent her death in "The Amazing Spider-Man 2.". I would guess that the intention is that those two are strictly platonic. Acuna: Can Venom stop shedding parts of his symbiote? Back in July, Zendaya told E! Or are these new versions of the same characters? One cameo we have not spoken about is Charlie Cox. We may have an answer to that. Crypto Hollands Spider-Man is basically in the same situation Maguire's Spider-Man was in during the first Spider-Man movie. The Worst of Eddie He derives no satisfaction from his accomplishments as he only wants to impress his cruel father, who is not worth the effort. Weirdly, there could have potentially been dozens of other Peter Parkers wandering around the world Ned only happens to call on two Peter Parkers, but what if there were others all over? Acuna:Websites don't have helicopters. Theres even the possibility that Garfields Parker could cross over with Hardys Venom, as the two have poofed back to their own universes and what if they both happen to be in the same world? Most of the world might be convinced of Spider-Man's innocence, but Jameson and the Bugle's fans are still holding out for solid proof of Spider-Man's misdeeds. The young soon-to-be-ex-highschooler visits Doctor Strange, hoping the former Sorcerer Supreme (Wong. However, I'd love to imagine that the three Spider-Men had an off-screen discussion about their suits and that Maguire and Garfield's Spideys gave Holland's a little bit of advice and inspiration to get started on his own design. Access your favorite topics in a personalized feed while you're on the go. However, in the film when the news was broadcasted to the citizens of New York, the news reporter called Flint "The Sandman". If you have a bunch of questions after seeing "Spider-Man: No Way Home," you're not alone. Maybe there's a reason she doesn't want to associate herself with the "Watson.". The More Fun Stuff post-credits scene isn't confirmed to be canon, but it doesn't carry too many story ramifications. I thought we were really going to find out if Reed Richards (the head of the Fantastic Four) or Norman Osborn bought the tower in "No Way Home" since the show and film take place around the same time. Watching him beat criminals and try to win back MJ would be a fun, lower-stakes Marvel movie. Then theres Maguire and Garfields Parkers, who also head back to their own universes. If you are wondering why it made Peter Parker act evil and selfish, I don't know. Without a doubt, Peter owes this lucky break to Tony, and now that EDITH is gone, this might've been the last time his mentor's technology is able to get him out of a jam. All we know for now is that a small piece of Venom has officially made its way into the MCU. By subscribing to this BDG newsletter, you agree to our. Character Spider-Man appears in 16567 issues . I just think there are endless opportunities for me to do what I want, and doing what I want might not be in the film industry. During the post-credits scene for Venom 2, the alien offers to give his host, Eddie Brock, knowledge of his own past. We have to hand this one to Tony Stark, who's always able to think one or 10 steps ahead of any problem he might encounter. On top of that, it has more than a handful of surprise appearances that made audiences around the world completely flip out. At the least, it seems like Osborn didn't purchase it. The symbiotes were a conquering race who had no feelings unto . Meanwhile, the symbiote hated Peter Parker for rejecting them. "No Way Home" doesn't show what happens in the Raimi-verse and Webb-verse when everyone returns, but the changes are undoubtedly huge. Plus I look after the Total Film and SFX sections and socials media channels. They end up in New York where they seek out Eddie Brock . We demand Venom shouting Football is life!. I always wanted brothers. That means that, yes, this is indeed Matt Murdoch, AKA Daredevil, who was last seen in the apparently still-canon Netflix shows. Acuna: Peter asked Strange to cast a spell that would make everyone forget him just to save the multiverse from breaking. Does he now die, or does that confrontation never even take place? Eddie Brock: Ooh, my Spider-Sense's tingling. Strange could've been referring to more Spider-Man villains it definitely looks like Kraven and Rhino are on their way or simply the evil alternates of the world's mightiest heroes. Acuna: I really loved what this film did with Garfield's version of Spidey. Since the movie moves on quickly from this subplot, I'm going to pretend that's precisely what happened off-screen. He hates Spiderman because he thinks he is the cause of all the bad luck in his life. Mysterio even gave a wink in that direction in "Far From Home" when he referred to this universe as "Earth-616," which is the Earth of the comics. Its also worth noting that Maguires Parker seemingly walks off that stab wound pretty easily, so we can assume hes safely back home with his Mary Jane. He was like a big brother to Peter, always calling him his little bro. But it all makes me wonder whether or not Peter's selfless act will be rendered pointless. Unless it's later revealed that Doctor Strange has some magic in his family's past, he became a sorcerer through nothing more mysterious than rigorous study and hard work. This leads the symbiote to attach itself to Eddie Brock, giving birth to Venom. Sony and Marvel Studios. So, let's dig into it: there are Spider-Man's most troublesome villains have all come to the MCU thanks to Doctor Strange's spell gone wrong. One of the best surprises of the film was seeing Charlie Cox reprise his role as Matt Murdock three years after his "Daredevil" show was canceled on Netflix. It seemed like they just didn't have enough space for him or Betty in this film. Aunt May is dead. That means Eddie is (probably) back at home in his own corner of the multiverse. The answer could be right in front of us. Good thing Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige already hinted at Cox's involvement in the MCU, telling CinemaBlend: "If you were to see Daredevil in upcoming things, Charlie Cox, yes, would be the actor playing Daredevil. It's wild that Pepper wouldn't clean all of that up quickly in a press conference. Eddie agrees, and just as Venom says "Ready Eddie?", right when he seemingly begins his demonstration, things start to go haywire. Having everyone forget about Peter Parker also acts as an exciting new launch pad for Hollands Spider-Man. This was one of the biggest questions leading up to the release of "No Way Home," and the film doesn't come right out with a solid answer for it. Anyone who didn't spend the months leading up to "No Way Home" on an internet sabbatical knew that Jamie Foxx was returning to play Electro. My money's on next year's "She-Hulk" series, which revolves around another super-powered lawyer, Jennifer Walters. Does that still happen? He is the first Venom, and has also been Anti-Venom, Toxin, Carnage and the King in Black. Thinking its Reeds costume fixer, Peter makes contact with the symbiote, covering him entirely in a new black costume and enhanced versions of his spider powers. However, Uncle Ben was seemingly not quite as pivotal in Spider-Mans origins as he was for the other two Peter Parkers, with May being the creator and molder of his conscience this time around. Get religion. Venom tells Eddie that he hasn't allowed Eddie to see. The implied change in Spider-Man's "origin" is enough to let us know that this isn't the same world that was first explored in "Amazing Fantasy #15," but there's another small detail that makes things clearer later in the film. Then, poof, Doctor Stranges "undo" spell kicks in and Venoms sent back to the Sony-verse but a speck of the Venom symbiote remains behind. (The upcoming Disney+ show "Secret Invasion" will likely fill in those blanks.). Spoiler warning for Hawkeye episode 5! They just go back to doing whatever they were doing by the sounds of it, Maguires Parker is living happily with Mary Jane, while Garfields Parker now has a renewed sense of enthusiasm for saving the day having been in a depression after Gwens death in The Amazing Spider-Man 2. Instead, we received a throwaway gag with the duo. on them. Cue tears. Eddie blamed Spider-Man for ruining his life. This is one plot hole that has yet to be answered. Which is understandable. Parkers moral conscience wont allow that. The bartender, angrily, explains to Eddie that Thanos made his family disappear for five years, referring to the event in the MCU that's been called "The Blip," which seems to sober Eddie up. Heck, the two Venom films have shown symbiotes attaching to dozens of people already. "Looking beyond Marvel or Sony, Im very excited. It's got magic, multiverses, and a whole host of baddies for Peter Parker to fight. We can dream, right? Knowing that returning them home means sending them to their imminent deaths, Peter resolves to find a way to save them all. For one thing, anyone in London during Mysterio's attack would've been able to see that Spider-Man was battling all the drones that attacked the city. 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If Marvel wanted Hardy in the next movie, they could have Venom attach himself to the MCUs Eddie Brock variant, but that would be more than a little confusing. "No Way Home" opens at exactly the point where "Far From Home" ended. Even though Mysterio managed to fake Peter's voice ordering the drones to strike, it's hard to believe that not a single camera in London captured some footage of the webslinger's good deeds. Acuna: How hard is it to do a background check on Quentin Beck and discover that he was an old, disgruntled, and fired employee of Stark Industries? But also, part of what made "NWH" so special was the fact that it was the only film to ever achieve this seemingly impossible reunion of three generations of Spidey actors. Before he became a mature anti-hero, Eddie Brock and the now-iconic Venom symbiote were ridiculously petty evildoers. It was just toying with the Spider. In "NWH" he claims he tried going home, but he found someone else there. Singh: I had the chance to speak with Bert and Bertie, the directing duo who helmed episodes three through five of "Hawkeye" and despite my best efforts to see if Kingpin/Wilson Fisk purchased the tower (which is a popular fan theory), their lips were completely sealed. Curing Flint stops him from causing any issues in the future, but would not have saved Sandman as Sandman was not going to die. But unfortunately she died of complications from giving birth to their first and only son, Eddie Brock. Eddie Brock bonded with the dark alien symbiote after it was discarded by Spider-Man, becoming the first Venom. [knocks Spider-Man down into a black web and binds his wrists to it] Peter Parker: We can find a way to settle this. It doesn't take a scientist to imagine that drawing on a different form of energy to create his body could give Electro a different look. The Spider-Man: No Way Home ending felt like a definitive full stop on Spidey's first era in the MCU, all while setting up a fresh start for the wallcrawler. Later, Ned ends up with Doctor Strange's sling ring, and sure enough, he's able to use it to open multiple portals throughout the film. I think it's more likely we'll see Murdock appear on another Disney+ show first. Acuna: Fury went so far as to interrupt Peter's vacation/school trip in "FFH." This shamed Eddie, causing him to be fired from his job and abandoned by his family. Okay, so let me explain this one to you. Will there be a "Daredevil" reboot? However, Maguires Parker seemingly comes from the current moment as he has not died and is just living out his life post-Sam Raimi's trilogy. Hence why they have aged, while the villains were frozen in time from the moment before they died. Business, Economics, and Finance. Her death lead Carl to be a cold and unloving father towards their son, only giving him half-hearted encouragement, whether it was doing well on his grades, or choosing a new career path. Why? Who is funding J.J. Jameson's conspiracy site? This is a tricky one. At the end of Venom 2, Eddie Brock, the journalist played by Tom Hardy who plays host to the alien symbiote Venom, takes Venom on vacation. Maguire seems like the less likely case, having long left the role behind and his version of the character now having a few back problems. Perhaps, thanks to Hollands Peters efforts, Doc Ock will be heroic a little earlier and save the day without having to die.