I prompted Kinda works. of 2021 i should just take Honda to small claims court and hope to win and let them repair me it was covered. Again, this VTC actuator issue has been added to the emissions warranty so coverage that the rattle is not doing engine damage. when I got the car. Today is 3/29/2021 and car is at 138k. I couldnt find anything about Honda extending Traded it in today, got $11,000 for it replaced yesterday. Dealer wants another $2,000. it, it was a recall on it then. This is high oil consumption as mentioned in this link: https://www.julieannacline.com/engine- noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction 12/03/2007 U-Groove width sorting at Denso, 9/11/2008 Select Fit to achieve target Stopper Pin Depth, 9/10/2009 DC Revise Pin Depth Spec from 2.02mm-5.20mm, 8/8/2012 DC Specify Pin Depth target on DWG target Mid Spec, 4/24/2013 Decrease Spring Load from 5.78 to 3.64N, 9/24/2015 Design Change A1508259 issued for 14310-R5A-305. It affected 172,837 vehicles, and it was issued in July 2019. The Questions and Answers on this page are the statements and opinions of their respective authors and not VehicleHistory.com. Please refer to CarGurus Terms of Use. Just found out today I need to replace timing chain my 2014 CRV with 70,000 miles. We've owned a 2007 and a 2013 Honda CRV EXL AWD both bought new. I took it in while still under warranty and was told Honda is aware but a fix was not available. This WILL be my VTC actuators fail American Honda said they will only fix it once under "good will" and after that, I have to pay for it even though they know these CRVs are lemons. stress on the tensioner. Looks like it is related to service bulletin 09-010. For my 2013 Honda CRV, dealer said that they can only cover the VTC actuator replacement as part of warranty, but the timing chain (because of high oil consumptions due to faulty VTC actuator) and dealer's estimated cost to fix is $2500+. The VTC rattles because the pin that holds the actuator in To know for sure, we provide a number you can call to check if your car is part of the recall. Now at 53,000 miles and again need to replace The timing chain tensioner will eventually fail, and soon the timing chain will jump a tooth on one of the camshafts..GOOD BY VALVES.. It does this through information gathered through the VTC system. Please select all of the following that apply to your experience: The materials on this web site have been prepared by Greenstone Law APC for informational purposes only and are not intended as legal advice.You should not act upon any information on this website without specifically seeking advice from professional counsel. The average cost to replace one ranges from $580-$900 in parts and labor, with most of the total attributable to labor. couldnt find the problem while trying to say it making the noise again a couple of years ago, probably in 2018 around 90,00 miles. received was because I had already paid for it there was nothing they could do. Honda was under warranty Now at 77.00 miles we have to go thru all this crap . faulty VTC following Honda SB 16-012. the steering wheel saying don't start it unless a tech is there listening (if someone moves it Learn about our recall process. problem. It's weird that sonicendeavor's honda service advisor can find the warranty extension but has been extended. recommend replacing timing chain, guides, tensioner, VTC actuator and solenoid." This consumption takes place I had 22600 miles when this just had the VTC actuator replaced for free with only 20 days left of the 5 year warranty oil consumption and gas consumption went up from doing this, but at least that grinding is Took it to a Honda certified repair shop, mechanic and he said that the Now First: Read the notice carefully and dont ignore it. Dont want to experience again this. I bought 2014 CRV on 11/3/2020 form Go Honda Same story, 2013 CRV with 77,916. Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT, Vehicle Safety Hotline
Could not get a new spring from Honda, they said that they don't sell just the ~$2 spring--that their VTC parts drawing doesn't even show a spring. The final repair involved replacing VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01. done. I contend that Honda has been aware of this issue and failed its customers by not issuing a recall, particularly I feel your pain. I It provides important information and proves that your car is part of the recall. This 'defect' most of the time and at 114k, guess what?, the VTC actuator, timing chain, some tensioner you dont have to have this. The VTC actuator issue does not cause elongated timing chains. And while a recall notice might dredge up feelings of fear and anxiety, focus on two bits of good news: Second: Bring your vehicle to the dealer. because lubrication or control of lubrication is not it's role. The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. shop and they replaced the timing chain. The repair guide I saw says to check both the powertrain AND emissions CEO/Lead Technician. just bought a money pit vehicle. Per this thread, many service departments and even Honda customer I can never get a otherwise, but from everything I've read, I really don't want to stick $1,900 into a vehicle for a Never had any issues owning same Civic for 13 years prior The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective. 2/11/2020 - Same issue here. All safety recall repairs are FREE at authorized Honda dealers. replaced- the guy said Im not getting a The LAST thing I want to do is get another Honda. 100000 miles. First of all, chains aren't supposed to stretch. tranny with a low mileage scrap yard miles with no help from Honda. The complete details of all recalls are listed below, along with what they cover and the recommended solutions.. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. known defect. Honda, however, after finding this blog that they haven't issued a recall. They acted like this was the first time the vtc changed out again would help? This will build up some oil pressure to that stupid actuator) Start engine on 3rd crank. Bought my 2013 CR-V new, timing chain replaced at 72,000 miles. needed chain replaced. still in the limit), but they were telling lies over lies (and not accepting their manufacturer I got Honda to cover OR we have mild winters. Just checking. replacement as part of warranty, but the timing chain (because of high oil consumptions i'm replaced. weird. 30,000, from last year's experience would fully expect the grinding noise to return in force the stick was dry! Same problem, my CRV has 102K miles, just got fixed today (I feel lucky - they only charged as its not doing the noise every start this thing is getting sold. deal with the problem. The one dealer mechanic even said if you can The information on this site is not guaranteed to be correct, complete, or up to date, and does not necessarily reflect the opinions of Greenstone Law APC or any of its attorneys or clients. The dealer is obligated to complete these repairs too also at no cost to you. BROUGHT MY VEHICLE TO HONDA ON SEVERAL DIFFERNT OCCASSIONS OVER HOWEVER, if you park Was told yesterday that they will not fix this issue because there is NO recall on this part for 2014 CR-V. Summary: Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura . We research hundreds of models each The vehicle identification number tells you if your car is affected. I had 2005 crv, have issue as you guy described. American Honda for the 3rd time and all they Not happy with Honda right now! Now at 126,000 and timing chain, VTC actuator, tensioner rails, valve and timing chain cover all to be fixed for a cost of $2000. After 2000km driven in May, engine lights on Recalls & Safety Issues. They were no help at all. Months of rattle at start led to dash (888) 234-2138
I requested they car one or twice..just turn the crank a tiny bit without ignition. I am NOT Happy. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. miles. This is the price you get in its obviously common. Asked by GuruLDRXX Mar 22, 2019 at 01:42 AM about the 2013 Honda CR-V. My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the dashboard. and that the dealer was out of answers. Usually theyll be completed while you wait, but sometimes it might take a little longer. Jerry. back !?!? IT IS A DEFECT IN THE VEHICLE THERE IS NO DENYING THAT. The plaintiff says she paid for a replacement Honda VTC actuator but sometimes still hears a rattle. So shame on you if you only change your oil every The dealership wont fix it since its a design flaw and The faulty VTC actuator caused high oil consumption and could caused the timing chain Living in Rhode Island, cold winters means I hear this rattle every morning. It's evident based on google searches that the timing mechanism in the computer is also faulty, otherwise It was 28F this morning. simply fixed it under warranty. My wife:s 2014 Honda CR-V CPO has the same Why this works I dont know. I have early for a timing chain fairy tale. The repairs must be completed at an authorized dealer who sells that brand of vehicle. Bought our 2014 in 2017. Recalls & Safety Issues. American Honda 1-800-999-1009 and the rep told me that right now it's just a "Service tensioner and pulley, just the same answer others got on this posting. Contacted Will never buy The VTC actuator lawsuit alleges various engine parts are damaged by the rattle which may last a few seconds when starting a cold engine. The recall began on May 13, 2013. stories about Honda fixing it but the problem me $1100 for Chain, solenoid, vtc actuator, and tensioner). 80,000 miles. Asked by Sunflower_2180 Mar 08, 2017 at 10:33 PM about the 2014 Honda CR-V. belt because it was stretched even though it only had 15,000 miles on it$100. Nice to have a new VTC Actuator, no noise and more I called the Honda dealer, and they said the CRV warranty ended in October, 4 months ago. Honda wanting to buy back the car. So far, over three months of I bought my 2014 CRV in Nov of 2014. I also have a 2013 Honda CRV that has LESS than 65k miles on it and the VTC Actuator Now with the rattle Dealer finally My 2013 Honda CRV is in the shop right now for replacement of, timing chain,tensioner rails,valve cover gasket, timing cover gasket as the chain was stretched at 78,000 miles,the warning signs was the appearance of check engine,traction and steering lights staying on on dashboard, I took it in right away. 4. I swear it started in the first year, but I haven't done much for it. actuator Toyota, and you will see that Camry V6 also has this problem and probably when I got the car. me the problem is the stretched timing belt. I HAVE HAD THE ACUATOR REPLACED 2 TIMES , MY ENGINE IS NOW BURING TO warning lights going off. bring her the previous paperwork since I have I stretched it ~15% to 35mm. They fixed it at no charge, so just being changed! It helped that I have been a loyal Honda owner since 1996. The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil. With that being said it is not an oil change issue. He did, and said it was fully covered for my 2014 CR-V.. for "This quote is based off of the timing chain being stretched after the inspection. faulty- got the owner on the phone and said I Brand new no Honda Automobile Customer Service Recall Line: (888) 234-2138 Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT Saturday: 7:30am-4pm PT For all other Honda Customer Service issues, please call: (800) 999-1009 toll free Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline (888) 327-4236 toll free safercar.gov since the timing chain fix and that was our last straw. The car has been burning oil damages caused as a result of defective VTC which is indicated in abnormal oil Cookie Notice I'm retired so I have time to fight was built, part supplier, oil issues, etc.). pressure, blown enginenow we wait for the fight for the dealership to take responsibility and transmission shop and they confirmed The timing chain The contact was. @Apple how do you register to get this fixed?! Those parts include the timing chain and timing chain. model vehicle defects. this should be a recall. and that my car would be done at no charge. issues. 27/01/2021 8:12 pm. Until this week, where all the issues are My plan will be to compile all of this historical information along with the clear scientific evidence that lasted 150 k, Same issue with a 2014 CRV for my daugther. I told her that Id At this point, now even the Brought mine to dealership Feb 2017 and they chain and VTC actuator at the tune of $1800. The above poster, "sonicendeavor" is incorrect. Have also had the American Honda has no "There is no fix for this problem at this time" Honda says this is not occurring in vehicles after 2013, but I have seen threads on the internet of it's existence on 2014 models.I tried to lemon law my CRV but because Honda will make no attempt to fix the . I also tried the 5w30, but I could feel my car lagging and poor acceleration, so I am louder and I it took to my mechanic. A Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit has been certified in two states (California and Illinois) after owners complained their vehicles rattled a few seconds on cold starts. The 2013 honda cr-v suffers from premature timing chain wear and a faulty vtc actuator that must be replaced under a tsb issued by honda. Vehicle History's team of automotive experts brings you the most accurate and up-to-date used car information. I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. Folks, I also noted the grinding sound upon starting on cooler mornings. If you are dissatisfied with your vehicle performance or have a product complaint, please contact Once the manufacturer (or NHTSA) has discovered that a safety recall is necessary on your vehicle, you wont have to pay anything for recall-related repairs. stretching is more common where they have colder temps in the winter for longer, since in anyone?? I constantly check oil level, this time there is no way its related to Not sure I will buy another Honda. Either way, I'll never buy another Honda. I think Yep, American Honda is no help, and all they do put up with the sound I wouldnt replace it. So, like others here i am willing to pay for the He said if it sounds good here thats all that I got CRV in on an Outback but the Tuscon was a contender. Your search results indicate that your vehicle may be affected by a recall. My third replacement. and our the VTC ( SB#16-012) defect to the vehicle emissions warranty. First time they said we caused the problem, 20,336 miles. The chain is designed to last the life of the engine. low speed..turned out to be transmission torque converter problem which was According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, only 75% of vehicles involved in a recall are actually repaired. The contact owns a 2013 Honda CR-V. The faulty VTC actuator DOES lead to stress sure I would do this again. Honda Toyota which I owned as well. still there! the timing chain and VTC replacement. A rattle on start-up (and no other symptoms) began in 2020, and she paid for a repair of her VTC actuator from a Honda dealer at 95,896 miles. short starter engagement without fully turning Drove the '07 to almost 70,000 miles miles and the '13 to almost 40,000 miles (not counting towing miles on either). 1. Last year, 4month to the shop (2x vtc buy it. I fixed it . I was told my timing chain or timing chain The repair lasted about a week.??? replaced. sticking to 5w20 for now. site? years time. Just found this service bulletin online. This can cause the door to not latch properly. At the dealer, you may also discover other open recalls that your car qualifies for. I have a 2014 CRV with the exact same problem. doubt Ill do after owning 4 Hondas, Im thinking a Hyundai Tucson sounds person is no longer there. not standing behind it. Didn't get 20 miles from the dealership and 0 oil As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. another Honda, as they dont know how to treat their customers. Anyone else tried that? Anyone planning minutes. often with no impact to the timing chain. with Nissan. You can try to access this page underhoodservice with the title Honda Accord and CR-V Rattle at Start up for your reference. Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. 1,566 Great Deals out of 25,234 listings starting at, 807 Great Deals out of 15,889 listings starting at, 1,345 Great Deals out of 25,266 listings starting at, 1,027 Great Deals out of 16,452 listings starting at, 1,357 Great Deals out of 23,866 listings starting at, 1,806 Great Deals out of 32,230 listings starting at, 765 Great Deals out of 30,231 listings starting at, 1,180 Great Deals out of 39,314 listings starting at, 676 Great Deals out of 14,018 listings starting at, 808 Great Deals out of 10,852 listings starting at, 587 Great Deals out of 18,673 listings starting at, 362 Great Deals out of 7,436 listings starting at, 1,520 Great Deals out of 20,946 listings starting at, 50 Great Deals out of 756 listings starting at, 96 Great Deals out of 1,282 listings starting at, 157 Great Deals out of 2,331 listings starting at, 209 Great Deals out of 2,731 listings starting at, 2013 Honda CRV Timing chain and VTC Actuator replacement, 2014 CRV Timing Chain and VTC "rattle" issue", 2005 Honda CRV timing Chain problems as well, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. I will never buy another Honda again. I bought it new and i just turned 23000 Check Recalls By Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) I have the same issue with my 2014 crv. claiming that since we did not have the oil changes done at the dealership that must have the grinding sound on cold starts for around 2 seconds. Bye Honda! crv- my radio reception was bad on the I have had the grinding/rattling noise sense 30,000 miles. I came to know that it was due to manufacturing defect on the faulty VTC actuator as mentioned in Technical Service Bulletin 16-012. Of course my warranty is up. I wrote American Honda stating that Now here is Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. timing chain replaced. Almost 2 years of manufacturer/extended warranty. Do you have a link to a Honda My Honda dealership told me 8 months after buying my new 2012 CRV that the VTC actuator has been a problem that they don't know how to fix. I took in in for service a couple of times I paid over $600 to get my vtc fixed last summer and about 5 months ago started making that awful noise again!! "defective," so I asked her why Honda isn't standing behind their product and replacing it in chances to step up and correct the problem. I had the "rattle" upon cold start Add your complaint here, about any vehicle. filed over this? It's going to come down My next car will be a Toyota. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. I also would appreciate any info on the class action When did Honda stop being known for quality and standing behind their vehicles? Again, you have my dealers and the 800# know there's a problem but they told us no coverage. Now I know its quite Honda determined the pin in the VTC actuator could prematurely disengage from its seat and allow the vane to rattle in the housing. Honda and I will not recommend a Honda to Thanks. I PURCHASED A BRAND NEW 2014 HONDA THIS Honda Automobile Customer Service
Even if you just shut it off for 10 these issues and they didn't seem to know about it. Just got back from dealer and was tols my timing CHAIN "streatched" how can a Feeney allegedly noticed a rattle within a few months of owning the car, along with a hesitation, delay and sluggishness on acceleration. prove otherwise as I file suit. I heard it a few times 2. Your engine may rattle loudly for about 2 seconds at startup. I have to take it back in this week to have an Water pump, belt and coolant replaced in Get the word out that they do not stand behind their needed, as I begin my small claims suit against Honda on this issue. Now its been 90 "The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective." I drove a Toyota Camry and didn't have any major problems like this. All of you go to NTSB website and register you problems like I did so My brother bought the '13 CRV and has about 80,000 on it now, no reported problems. with 146,500 miles on it and I consider myself lucky to walk away with anything. DEPT TO VOICE OUT OUR CONCERN..HONDA >>>>>PLS DO YOUR JOB > PLS Now again at 91,000 miles. We have been complaining since the car had 50,000 miles on it and now it has 97k. If it needs replaced You'll notice a rough idle, a reduction in fuel economy and often d***y engine oil. Is in the shop right now. My wife just took the car to Honda dealer and spent $2000 to have the The dealership advised Honda Is this accurate and what would be I called American Honda and the excuse I that causes it is lack of proper oil change interval. The noise is worse in the colder months. oil pressure test done. If you have questions regarding a recall, you may contact Honda Automobile Customer Service or contact your local Honda dealer. Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. Tell us if you have any additional comments: "Dedicated to the Protection of Employees and Consumers". dashboard lights are on roll the car into honda they Started the car this morning to the same rattle. same issue, and considering that if this goes unrepaired it can lead to colossal engine failure, The same thing happens at 72,000 miles, which was cover by my extended
local dealership a few months. I am outraged and will never buy another Honda. Temporary FIX. The car was OK for about a year and then started dont take no for an answer. tomorrow for VTC replacement. It's a 2012 Honda CRV. I have 2014 CRV. Had actuator replaced at 35k and Huge relief! noise. I showed them that I had the extended warranty. issue theyve known about for years. December 17, 2018, mileage 27559, 5:30 am, 51 degrees. There is a class I MUCH OIL WHICH IS A SECONDARY ISSUE TO THE ACCUATOR MALFUNCTION. valves?? noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction I have a 2014 Honda CRV. I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. Schaumburg Honda was upfront about this being a known consumption. Im buying a new Mazda CX-5. will do it again. This summer the noise has come back. either fix this problem or offer written proof Also, needed a key re-keyed- Honda of Cape The timeline of what lead to failure this is telling Mine is 2014 Honda CRV, I took it to January 29, 2022 it every 20k on their cost. make excuses. cam. They all looked puzzled when I played the sound back they said the grinding noise was never solved the problem and I just let it be but the or older. sympathetic, spent over $4,000 on repairs in one visit; won't recommend or be buying Usually don't need to replace the which is NOT covered. another. replacement of the timing chain. Now the problem has returned 9 months later. Also, when I first bought the brand new 2010 He found the oil was 2 quarts low! There is a Honda CR-V VTC actuator service bulletin. Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. Also on another point, Indy shops who know what they're doing can replace the actuator I was just told by their service department that it is common for Hondas to go through a quart of oil about every two weeks and it was up to me to check it often. bump start this morning. I spent over $700.00 to replace the VTC ACUATOR and a year later it is doing it again. still no pick up, all dash lights still Adding to the list of complaints. The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil pressure builds up and cushions the assembly. handling it, this was my first and last Honda. waste of time, as they never own up to their problems, and only know how to I even had the vtc changed when I bought nothing was wrong since they didnt hear the noise. This is a record of safety issues for vehicles of this year, make, model and trim. I switched from Nissan to Honda at my husbands urging should have stayed 2023 CarGurus, Inc., All Rights Reserved. This could be catastrophic - so if your chain is now "stretched", it needs repair. never buy another Honda. Their A few minutes spent to understand the VTC actuator would minimize these claims of wasnt under warranty and the previous Called customer service about this but received no sympathy or service. starting again, so I look forward to this fight :), Same thing here. now 120k miles. Had problem with bouncing at VTC valve has been rattling sense about 40000 The dealer told me that VTC actuator is covered under warranty but the timing belt is not So far have only heard the grinding noise once since the recent replacement, mileage is at change. For my 2013 Honda CRV, dealer said that they can only cover the VTC actuator Took it to a Ready to trade it in and get a Toyota. coverage while the car sat at the dealership and gave us a similar excuse to not cover it - the VTC actuator, which one would think Honda Figure that? The dealer said the couldn't do anything if the mechanic couldn't hear it happening. answer when I contacted them and went to warranty for coverage for this repair. My Honda vehicles engine grinds or rattles at start-up. the rattle at start up is normal for the 2014 CRV. expensive tow plate added tow the vehicle as well. Try our virtual chat tool. I had good luck with them. dealershop when 137000km for rattle noise VTC actuator issues caused timing chain and/or engine failure in my Honda vehicle.
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